What We Talk About in This Episode

In Episode 5 of the Joyful Health Show, we interview registered dietitian and Joyful Health Coach, Megan Becker, to answer the question “How can I improve my nutrition without obsessing or dieting?”

Megan shares her story of micro-focusing on nutrition in undergrad, trying out different diets, and feeling the negative effects of associating food with morality. When God led her to Bible studies and a more holistic way of eating in graduate school, she shifted gears and dug into a more balanced approach to food and nutrition. She shares how to incorporate gentle nutrition in a practical way, what to focus on, and what to let go of when it comes to nutrition information.

In this episode we discuss:

• The misconception of perfect health in this life, and what to embrace instead

• Getting curious about food as a framework for self-care and intuitive eating

• Incorporating gentle nutrition to accompany a healthy relationship with food

• Seeing nourishment as a continuum rather than calculations

Resources Mentioned

1. Megan’s How to Reject Diet Culture PDF

2. Our free class, "stop dieting and discover the joy in food and fitness"

3. Sign up for our Joyful Health Course with Megan’s link here

4. Get started with Intuitive health by grace today with our Body Blessings Course

Guest Bio

Megan Becker, MPH, RD

Megan is a dietitian that focuses on a grace rooted approach to health and intuitive eating. She works with clients 1:1 through Grace Rooted Nutrition and is a coach for Joyful Health. Her goal is to empower individuals to make beneficial, lifelong behavior changes that will positively impact their overall wellbeing and foster a healthy relationship with food, body image, and most importantly, their Creator. Her “day job” is working at a Veteran's skilled nursing community in Michigan.

Episode Transcription

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And today's episode, we talk with dietitian and Joyful Health Coach Megan Becker about how to incorporate gentle nutrition without it becoming an obsession or another diet. Megan shares her personal story and how God's grace transforms the way she practices as a dietitian, and she gives practical tips in mindset shifts to help listeners become curious about their nutrition instead of judgmental.

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Let's get into the episode. Hey, friends, welcome to the Joyful Health Show. I'm Aubrey registered dietitian, and I'm Kasey, a personal trainer. And together we are here to help you discover Joyful Health by grace. Hi, everyone, and welcome to the Joyful Health show.

This week we have the honor of interviewing our very own Joyful Health coach Megan Becker, about the common question “How can I improve my nutrition without obsession or going back to dieting?” So welcome, Megan. 

Megan

Thank you. Thanks so much for having me. I'm excited to chat with you guys today. 

Kasey

Everyone who may not know Megan. She's a dietitian that focuses on a grace rooted approach to health and intuitive eating. She works with clients one on one through grace rooted nutrition and as a coach for the Joyful Health Collective.

So we're so, so grateful to have her her goal as to empower individuals to make beneficial lifelong behavior changes that will positively impact their overall well-being and foster a healthy relationship with food, body image and, most importantly, their Creator.

Her day job is working at a veterans skilled nursing community in Michigan. So Megan, thank you so much for being on here. We're just so excited to share your gifts and talents and stories with the world and that we are working on a team together.

And I don't know if we know a ton of your story too. And every time we tell our stories, it's different. But if you can tell us a little bit about how you got started with this, what was your like, personal or maybe career struggle with this? And then how did God meet you in the middle of that? And what do you do as a result? 

A Dietitian’s Journey Towards Gentle Nutrition

00:04:53:10 - 00:05:07:15

Megan

Yeah. So I am a registered dietitian. I do have a Master's degree also, and I say that because I feel like my undergrad experience was very different from my graduate experience in undergrad. Taking nutrition courses was very similar to like what Aubrey has shared with her story. It was kind of like, you learn and you focus so much about food and nutrition that it almost makes you so micro-focused on it.

But so in undergrad, I actually tried different diets and started to really affect my morality with what I was eating and things like that. So it did actually start to negatively impact my relationship with food a little bit.

And then into grad school, I was introduced to intuitive eating in health at every size. And so that really started to shape and mold the way that I viewed health and then my spiritual health really came into play with that.

And that's why I love Joyful Health so much, because we all we focus on whole health and we also focus so heavily on that spiritual health aspect as well, which is so unique and so important. And with my story, I feel like that is the most important part of my stories.

I had a bit of like a spiritual awakening coming back to Jesus moment after grad school when I moved home. I just was at a place where truly I was chasing things of the flesh, desires of the flesh.

Perfect Health is Yet to Come

I was coming out of broken relationships and just, you know, finishing grad school, doing a lot of positive things, but just was feeling really broken. And really, I'm not worthy. And Jesus really met me in that brokenness, and I see that a lot and dieters that, you know, or a  lot of women or people just experiencing brokenness in their lives for different reasons or fear, and we seek to control what we are eating or what we're doing as a means to fix that. 

When, as we know, Jesus is our only true Savior. He's our only true healer and God is in control of our health ultimately.

00:06:52:15 - 00:07:12:18

And I think the other thing that's really important to remember, too, is that we're not made to have perfect health in this life. And I think that through diet and somehow through the pursuit of nutrition, we are fed the message that we have to have this perfect health and that's not meant for us in this life.

We we live in a broken world. Our life is never going to be perfect here. I had actually a little bit of a humbling experience this morning. I woke up with a migraine and yesterday I had a great day. I ate well, I nourished myself well, I moved my body well. But you know, it's just a reminder. I think too, we look to food and things that we can control so much sometimes that, you know, it's important to kind of remember that we are in broken bodies.

And with that said, though, I think it's really important and beneficial also to practice grace through that, but also to remember that there is joy in that we can steward our bodies well through what we eat and what we do in focusing our whole self. I guess all that is to say is that I studied to be a registered dietitian and I have a great foundation of knowledge from that. But it was really a lot of learning that I did outside of that that aligned with, you know, my faith walk and faith journey.

And it definitely was a God thing that I got connected to Joyful Health when I did. So I'm excited to be part of an initiative that is helping women and people to take better care of their bodies physically, but also nurturing our spirits first.

00:08:30:14 - 00:08:50:16

How to Start Practicing Gentle Nutrition without Dieting

Aubrey

Mm, yeah. And I know we'll probably even hear more of your story as we go, but I love that you just emphasize the fact that the most important part of our health is just our spiritual health because it affects every other avenue, affects our mindset on everything and those circumstances that come up in this world that we live in, whether it's getting a migraine or being sick, like being able to have that eternal perspective and realization that God is our ultimate healer and He's our ultimate hope. I feel like He is the most important thing for the rest of our life in the rest of our health.

So, Megan, today we're talking to people about this question. You know, “how can I how can I practice gentle nutrition without becoming obsessed?” Maybe they've come out of this mindset of control like you mentioned where they feel like they were trying to control every single thing that went into their body.

And now they found intuitive eating and they're feeling the freedom. But they want to know how can they start practicing some gentle nutrition without it becoming a diet? And so but I think I think the problem that many people have is they think intuitive eating is about eating whatever, whenever that there's no place for nourishing habits and nourishing nutrition. And so they just don't know where that fits. Can you speak to the confusion here? 

00:10:13:17 - 00:10:30:12

Megan

Yeah, absolutely. So kind of like what I was saying is that I don't know where this idea came from, and I do think that part of it is the enemy feeding us lies.But nutrition was never meant to be a mechanism to make us feel bad about the way that we eat. And I think that gentle nutrition really just provides a way to beneficially nourish ourselves, but does not have the goal to demonize certain foods.

And so, you know, with the dieting culture that we live in, with dieting being so prevalent, there's a lot of harm with dieting and 95 plus percent of diets fail. So it's not, you know, it's not this health that people are seeking are usually the outcomes that they are seeking through that.

And one thing that I really see a lot is that it is such a slippery slope to that, you know, when we're when we're partaking in black and white thinking and we're categorizing foods as good foods and bad foods, it's a real slippery slope of them looking at ourselves as either good or bad based on the foods that we eat. Whereas really, gentle nutrition opens up that gray space to understand why that we eat, why we eat, what we eat to get curious about what we're eating. And I think intuitive eating is really health helpful as a self-care framework.

And just, you know, getting curious about that and digging into the why behind why we eat what we eat. And I don't think I answered all of your questions. 

Do Calories and Nutrients Fit into Gentle Nutrition?

00:11:46:17 - 00:12:07:20

Kasey

I think that's really helpful. And because we want to have railings like railroad tracks to follow the Lord's heart. And then he also gave us a mind like a brilliant mind because He's a brilliant Creator, and he gave us so much potential for us to be able to think about what is good for us and able to have that reason. The Bible talks a lot about reason and then to to think with your mind and to pray with your mind. So specifically, 1 Corinthians 14: 15 and this is Paul talking to the Corinthians Church. There's a lot of disorder and people are just getting up and speaking in the middle of church, and he was saying, “No, God is a God of order.” And he said, “I will sing with spirit and I will also sing with my understanding.”

And so it's like this intuitive eating thing is like, we are eating with our spirit and we're eating with our understanding. So maybe what are some things, some practices, maybe some harmful practices that people might be practicing now that they could release hold of in order to grab hold of the gentle nutrition piece?

As far as maybe they're going to heavy on nutrition like micro nutrients, side of things, how everything is broken down or, you know, versus “I'm just going to eat whatever and not even think about it and not even bring that reason into this space.”

Maybe what's with something that's like a specific circumstance or any patterns that people could be aware of, but they can let go of? 

00:13:30:00 - 00:13:46:16

Megan

Yeah, yeah. I think definitely we want to be careful around restrictive eating and exercise.

Right, so any pattern that we're engaging in that doesn't allow for any flexibility in our lives, it doesn't allow us to enjoy the joyful moments of life, right, like holidays and celebrations. And no, we're just so stuck on this diet or this exercise routine that we're missing things.

We're missing joyful parts of lives. I think that there's a lot of red flags to look for in that. And truly, you know, that strict and rigorous way with dieting or exercise can take up so much mental space to which I think it's just a dangerous line because we can start to put those things on a pedestal and have those things become idols in our lives and things that we are worshiping. And you know, as Christian women, we want God to be the center of our attention and we don't want things that we are engaging in that are meant to steward our bodies well, to take care of ourselves.

Well, here to become something that is then an idol that we've created in our lives and something that we are worshiping. So definitely kind of just looking at, are you flexible in your eating and your exercise to, I mean, those those really go hand-in-hand, but I know we're talking a little bit more about eating today, but do you have some flexibility with that? Are you allowing yourself, are you able to go out and enjoy a meal at a restaurant and pick foods on a menu without feeling super stressed and super anxious?

And I think it's important to just kind of check in with ourselves and ask, “What are your health goals?” Are you, you know, is way that you're eating in line with your health goals? But what's your vision for your life? And is the way that you're eating beneficial to towards that? Or is it taking away from that? Because I think when we get into that too restrictive mindset, we're often taking away from that through the restrictiveness and not being flexible or again missing out on opportunities.

And then just to look at too, I think the diet mentality is so ingrained in our culture now and so ingrained in so many of us that there's a lot of like diets in disguise now that actually kind of introduce you to making things off limits, having forbidden foods.

Of course, if you have like an allergy or any, any intolerances to food is definitely OK to avoid those foods. But otherwise, one of the steps of intuitive eating is to make peace with all foods. And I think it's important to not have forbidden foods, and that can be a scary journey to go on.

So I think it's important to work with either a trained, registered dietitian or a mental health therapist or a great community like Joyful Health while you're going through that journey. Because, yeah, I think we can definitely kind of get stuck in in thinking that, you know, we're starting to make healthy choices and then control kind of starts to take over. And it can definitely be a slippery slope as well. So, yeah, and I hear you talking about just releasing that restrictive mindset and not an all or nothing black and white mindset with food.

What Should We Focus on With Gentle Nutrition?

00:16:49:19 - 00:17:12:03

Aubrey 

And I know earlier you mentioned just being curious, and I love that idea, especially when it comes to, OK, let's say that we have made peace with food. We're no longer being restrictive. And now we're just wondering, how can we implement some habits that are going to just move us forward towards our joy goal?

You know, maybe where we're realizing that we're not eating and often enough or we want to eat more of a certain food or we want to eat at home more. There's all sorts of reasons why we might want to make a food change or gentle nutrition shift.

Maybe our digestion is wonky and we want to try to add some more fiber or anything along those lines. Talk about how someone can start to make those shifts from a place of curiosity over judgment. 

00:17:48:23 - 00:18:08:02

Megan

I think you already started to kind of say one of the big things is focusing a lot on what you can add in rather than taking away. That really just helps to build a healthy mentality while you're working on meeting goals. And yeah, gentle nutrition is definitely important, right? Food is powerful, but it's it's not the end all, be all, because when we look at health, there's a lot of different components in our life.

There's stress, there's how we're moving or not moving our bodies. There's things that we can and cannot control. Food is so important and can really help, you know, with different things that we are going for or going through and focusing on what you can add in to support that like fiber.

Like, you know, thinking back to my cycle, I do try to eat magnesium rich foods, when I know that I'm either at a time in my cycle that I'm more likely to experience that or different things like that, but also just, you know, thinking that food is energy, right?

So it's calories, it's nourishment for us. But also the satisfaction factor is really important also. I think when we're eating like we're not robots, right, like we're humans, God made us, God designed us to enjoy our food. Jesus enjoyed food while while he was here.

When we look at food as just like, you know, whether you're like, working out and doing bodybuilder things and you're looking at food as just energy, you're really missing out on that satisfaction fast factor and you're missing out on joy.

So I always tell people, you need both. You need that energy and that nourishment, and you need that satisfaction to find fullness and really getting curious as far as taste. How is your food tasting in that? You know, that can be found through mindful eating practices actually sitting down to, you know, take some breaths before you eat to sit in a quiet place where you can actually enjoy your food and concentrate on it and focus on it. We can get curious with the textures of foods, with the temperature. The flavor is, you know, we all do have different preferences that are molded throughout our lives and they're unique and you know, that can be through culture or can be through family things or just preferences. I mean, I tend to like sweet foods. My family used to joke that I could probably live off of desserts and vegetables. And, you know, of course not. But I do like those foods.

We all have our preferences. But another thing is getting back to the simplicity of food I think is important. I think, you know, a lot of us do have privilege here in the United States to have a lot of different food available to us and kind of just, you know, getting back to appreciating the food that we have. And so for me, that same grace before eating a meal, talking to God, inviting God into those, those moments of enjoying a meal really was a game changer. We did that off and on growing up, but really kind of making that a practice now as an adult has been beneficial for me as well. 

00:21:32:13 - 00:21:50:12 

Kasey

Yeah, that's really good. And when I think of nutrition, I think micro macronutrients, calories, vitamins, and I didn't hear you talk a lot about those things. I heard you talk about taste and texture and how you know if you’re satisfied. 

And like you said, there's a lot of things that go into what you put in your mouth and might have these micro and macro nutrients. But the way your body takes it in can be dependent upon those stress factors.

How are you sleeping? How are your relationships? You know, all of those things can really change the chemistry of how we receive that food and how we don't. So I think what I hear you saying is that nutrition is not flat, one dimensional, but it's affected by a lot of different things.

So for the person whose background upon hearing the word nutrition, is calories and micronutrients, how would you say to start thinking about nutrition? Should they wipe all of that away? We've heard you say to focus on what they need, how to support their life. And you know, what are your preferences versus how do you need to support your life with some more gentle nutrition practices? 

00:22:34:00 - 00:22:56:07

Megan

Yeah, I think that's a great question, I think with a lot of clients that I've worked for and for myself personally, that making peace with all food is an important first step because I think a lot of us actually know more about nutrition than we think, like information is so readily available that it's actually overwhelming. And it's kind of this weird thing that I went in the nutrition wanting to have to teach people about nutrition like I wanted to do that and then started to realize that by doing that, and I know Aubrey shared this in her testimony. That kind of turns into just handing out these cookie cutter diets, and we find that that doesn't work. So, yeah, I think I'm sorry when you repeat the part that was a I was like a multi-part comment.

00:23:15:14 - 00:23:29:22

Kasey

Last question. So I guess like, how can we frame gentle nutrition in our lives? Do we need to look at calories? Do we need to look at vitamins? So as a dietitian, you know, if someone comes to see you, do they have a specific problem? Like, “What can I focus on, or do I need to track all of the things that I eat?” And, you know, have these different vitamins and minerals so like for the listener who's like, Well, how should I start with total nutrition? What do I need to track? How do you tell?

How Do I Start Practicing Gentle Nutrition?

00:23:56:13 - 00:24:12:18

Megan

I think I definitely try to always screen people for, you know, actually someone that's engaged in disordered eating because I think that that's going to kind of change the approach.

But for somebody that is just, you know, not having such a healthy relationship with their food, but not on the spectrum of having a eating disorder, I think that that, you know, that changes that a little bit. And I I think that tracking your food both for you and your dietitian to kind of see, you know, what you're eating can be helpful, but kind of from like a zoomed out lens of just like, am I eating meals that are making me fall? You know, I think about one of my clients that I've worked with the longest, and that was her thing was she wasn't eating enough.

She wasn't eating enough at meals. She wasn't eating things that were satisfying her. And so we really had to work through that satisfaction factor quite a bit. And then she didn't feel like she was, you know, out of control at different points of the day and choosing snack items that weren't actually making her body feel good, but that she was just going to out of, you know, ease and habit. So I think that, yeah, it can be helpful to track your your food, but from like a zoomed out lens. I definitely I had posted on this recently.

I don't recommend the calorie tracking apps and things like that. Most of the general population doesn't really need to know those, but so many people are engaging in doing that. But yeah, and then I know like in Joyful Health we do like a plate method. Really making sure that you are getting all the food groups, you're getting fruits, you're getting vegetables. I'm trying to get those items every day.

My dad and I are doing a habit tracker app in the new year, and our goal is to get five vegetables a day in at least two fruits and really just kind of varying your protein. It’s important to just make sure that you're getting all the food groups not leaving out your grains.

Many leave out grains. But grains are really important, too. In our culture often demonizes the carbs and the grains. And, you know, gentle nutrition can really come into play with the grains with, you know, finding grains that have more fiber if you need more fiber in your diet, but also allowing yourself to, you know, if a white tortilla or a piece of sour dough bread is your satisfaction thing, something that you love, allowing yourself to have that with a meal or with a snack, and just not not demonizing certain foods.

Like, I like to look at it almost as like circular continuum. All the things that we eat are from meal to meal, from snack to snack throughout the day. So like the different food groups that we are choosing, it's, you know, it doesn't have to be perfectly plated every meal.

It's ongoing, we are continually nourishing ourselves and it’s an ongoing process. And yeah, I think that, you know, it's good to to want to look at that and to want to make improvements. But I think it just we're skipping a step if we're not making peace with foods first, and that if we're struggling with our mentality and we're not addressing that first, it's hard. If they're struggling with their relationship with food, we never just jump into that nutrition piece. We always look at how we can improve the mentality for how we can improve the stress in their lives.

And, you know, really looking for like, “what is the root at what you're wanting to control or change through food?” And again, I love food. I love nutrition. It’s a very important role in our health, but I think that the way that we look at that for some reason has gotten so flipped in our culture.

Gentle Nutrition as a Continuum of Nourishment

00:27:30:08 - 00:27:47:22

Aubrey

Mm-Hmm. Yeah, it's that overkill of information like you mentioned before, that makes us think nutrition is everything, right? You can look at nutrition for whatever disease. Like anything, you can look up nutrition for anything and there's someone on the internet that says they have the way. And then, you know, we blame ourselves if we fall off or we experience symptoms or anything like that and we blame our nutrition, it's all because we haven't got our eating under control because that's, you know, that's the external thing that we feel we can control is our nutrition.

And so it turns into this judgment thing. But I love that. I love that continuum idea. And it reminds me of the fact that research study that shows that toddlers, Kasey and I were just talking about our kids and their eating before this conversation that toddlers, even though they seem to eat the weirdest things like in a day to a day to day basis, like weird meals of like one food at a time that over a course of a week, they're getting everything that their body needs, even though we can't see it as parents when we're looking at their daily intake.

And so that's just an amazing testament to God's design in our bodies and that they've been given that we have these cues put into us to get what we need. So I also am going to give a shameless plug for our Body Blessings prayer journal here because Megan was talking about tracking in a zoomed out way.

And with intuitive health, what that means for us is tracking these things that Megan's already alluded to, which is our satisfaction at meals, our fullness level, noting any sort of things that are going on in our stress level, in our relationships during that day that might have affected our eating and then bringing all of this in prayer to the Lord so that he can align our minds with his mind when it comes to food and health in our body. And so that's what that body blessings, prayer and intuitive health tracking journal is, is for. It's really a prayer journal where you can also track your movement and eating and look at those will get that information from a curious, zoomed out perspective instead of micromanaging every gram of protein, carbohydrate and calorie that we see happening with, like my fitness pal. So thank you, Megan, for bringing that up and talking about it in that way.

I know that we want everyone to be able to connect with you personally, because even though you're a Joyful Health coach coach, you have some amazing content that you share on your own site and your own Instagram. And so can you share with everyone where they can find you and then a little bit more about your resources that you have for them? 

00:30:37:24 - 00:30:54:09

Megan

Yeah. So I mostly hang out on Instagram. My handle is at @gracerooted.rd. And I did create a resource. Oh, goodness was that a year ago? Now I think it's how to attract diet culture and embrace God's grace there.

It will link it in the show notes, I believe. And then there's also a link in my profile that you can access that for free. And I really just created that resource to kind of answer a lot of the questions or themes that I was seeing on Instagram or getting personally.

And I guess I continue to see people too and myself just struggling with fully rejecting the diet culture, the lies about who we need to be, the cultural expectations. And it's really just about, you know, tuning those out and tuning in to God's truth, I really walk through that some tangible practices that you can do day to day. And then I included like the hunger and fullness scale in that. So really just some useful tools to to move away from, you know, the dieting mentality and to embrace God's grace in what we eat. Because I think that that is such an important piece of, you know, walking away from the black and white mentality and really embracing that gray space and starting to ask questions like why we're eating, what we're eating and how it's making us feel. I know he talks about that with exercise and really, that feeling is so important, and it really helps us to make intuitive and intelligent decisions about what we eat.

I was just thinking while you were talking about how kids are born, to be such intuitive eaters and really our rules and culture, the noise of culture is what deters us away from that. And I think it's kind of sad that we've gotten to that place.

So I really, you know, created that resource to help women, adults in general to navigate that. So, yeah, I hope that that blesses some of you as well, and I'm always happy to if you messaged me and Instagram to chat with you and I hope to see some of you on that in the Joyful Health course, that was, of course, that I had actually taken myself back in 2019. 

I believe shortly after moving home from grad school and I myself as a dietitian benefited from that class a lot. You know, I'm a dietitian, but I'm a human first. I always tell people and I have bad body image days. I have struggles of my own. I was struggling with exercise a little bit, just finding a movement routine that that I felt good about and felt good in my body and Joyful Health really helped me through that a lot.

And I do love the the way that we talk about nutrition and inviting God into our journey, so I would highly recommend that, of course, as well. 

00:33:25:23 - 00:33:45:10

Kasey

Yeah, thank you, Megan. And I like how you talked about intelligence and how intelligence and intuition are two sides of the same coin.

And so really, what we want everyone to walk away with is just really, like you said, upside down picture of nutrition. And I feel like Jesus always turns things upside down. But how we put the word gentle, gentle nutrition, and that's a word that Jesus calls that he says about himself, which is really unique.

So Matthew, 11:29, he says, “take my yoke upon you and learn from me for I am gentle and lonely and heart.” And so that word gentle, just very disarming, very drawing, like draws us in. So, you know, our prayers that this conversation and the way that God wants us to think about nutrition would draw us towards the things that would benefit us and to trust that is already built in. And then we will enjoy the fruit of that. So Megan, would you would you pray us out in? Thank you so much for coming. 

Prayer

00:34:25:11 - 00:34:37:21

Megan 

Yeah, thank you, guys.

Dear Lord, I just I lift up the work that Kasey and Aubrey are doing and the Joyful Health collective. And I just pray for any of the listeners today. I just pray that they would feel a sense of freedom that is only found in your spirit.

Lord, I pray that they would give up the control and any fear that might be rooted in in their lives. And I pray that their health journey would become intuitive and it would become informed by you and the intelligent cues that you have blessed us with as hunger and fullness.

And I just pray above all, Lord, that we would know our identity and you as loved children of God, and that we would just never forget our worth and us and you, our worth in you, Lord. And I just thank you for the joy that you do bless us with experiencing in this life, and you care about

the details of our day to day so much that you care about the satisfaction that we get from food in addition to the nourishment that we get. And that just is such a testament to the character and the loving father that you are.

And I just pray that Joyful Health will continue to bless so many lives in your name and pray. Amen. 

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Thank you. Megan, it's been so good to have you on here and for everyone listening. May you rest in his grace and follow the joy.

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